what can you tell us about it? >> well, i can't confirm the specifics of the report, but can tell you this is very consistent with the types of information that we've been getting on china for some time now. and as serious as this one location is, and it is certainly that serious, this is just one part of what is a very robust military and intelligence chinese government effort to conduct espionage through the web stealing intellectual property and repurposing it to its companies in china to compete illegally against u.s. companies, and it is breathtaking, it's serious, and will cost us the next generation of prosperity if we don't do something about it. >> the president has complained at the highest levels to the chinese. this is not the first time we've heard about this, and the chinese deny it and i'm told that the american diplomats get nowhere when they bring this up with chinese leadership. >> yeah. that's part of the problem. we need to make this a bilateral, one, two, three, four, and five-numbered issue wi